HPT366 again?

Wolfram · Post by **Wolfram** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:36 am

What´s so bad about the HPT366 anyway? I know a lot of people seem to have trouble with it, but if you get your system up and running on it- is there a reason to use the other onboard IDE instead? Stabilitly?

I have my W2K running from a Fujitsu 40 GB 7.200 rpm attached to the HPT366 and everything seems to be ok. The maximum transfer rate seems to be much higher than on the other IDE controller- 39,5 MB/s maximum instead of only about 25 MB/s, according to Diskspeed32.

Regards,

Wolfram

Wolfram · Post by **Wolfram** » Mon Aug 12, 2002 5:42 am

Driver version is 5.0.2195.1- by Microsoft, claims the device manager.

But IIRC I installed it from an Abit floppy that says "Hot Rod 66 Driver 1.20". I got this floppy with the board when I boght it- 2nd hand. So maybe it´s not a driver delivered with the board, but from another source (ie that Hot-Rod-66 controller, same chipset, AFAIK)

Regards,

Wolfram

RRLedford · Post by **RRLedford** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 9:47 pm

Wolfram,
I have (3) BP6 systems all runnibg WinXP-Pro. They all have Promise ATA100 cards in them. After many disk crashes & corruptions, I started to lose faith in the HPT366. When I did a CPU upgrade to Cele2 1.1GHz, the system would blue screen in 1-5Min with the Hdisk running from the HPT366. After I switched to the Promise card it's rock solid at 1.21GHz.
I will only use the HPT for Read-Only devices from now on. -Rich

Wolfram · Post by **Wolfram** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:15 am

RRLedford wrote:Wolfram,
I have (3) BP6 systems all runnibg WinXP-Pro. They all have Promise ATA100 cards in them. After many disk crashes & corruptions, I started to lose faith in the HPT366. When I did a CPU upgrade to Cele2 1.1GHz, the system would blue screen in 1-5Min with the Hdisk running from the HPT366. After I switched to the Promise card it's rock solid at 1.21GHz.
I will only use the HPT for Read-Only devices from now on.

Hmmm... I got data corruption while exctracting very large .zip archives with my dual celery running @550, so I switched back to 523. Considering your experiences, it might have been the HPT366. I´ll try again with my HD connected to the onboard IDE and report again.

BTW, do you use a BIOS without the HPT or have you just switched it off in a standard BIOS (I use the standard RU BIOS)?

Regards,

Wolfram

Wolfram · Post by **Wolfram** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:19 am

One more thing: I got the impression that many people having difficulties with the HPT are running XP... could it just be a faulty driver for that OS?

Wolfram

RRLedford · Post by **RRLedford** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 10:07 am

I'm running the RU standard 1.25 BIOS, the HPT support has not been removed. The Windows driver is Win2K 1.25 version 1.25 also I believe.

I spent a sad couple of hours trying to get my new CELE2-1100MHz chip to run before I realized it was the HPT366 that couldn't handle all the new speed. I raced to CompUSA only to find that they only had Maxtor cards at a fair price. When I get it home, turns out its a Promise card inside. Solved my problem right away.

Wolfram · Post by **Wolfram** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 4:57 pm

I just tried ot make my 40GB Fujitsu HD work on the standard onboard IDE instead of the HPT. But it is not recognized, using a 40-wire-IDE-cable and jumpered as master on standard IDE-2.

Surfing around, I found that there seem to be drives that are not recognized when using an old 40-wire-cable. But I can´t attach the 80-wire used on the HPT 366 to the standard IDE, for one pin-hole of the blue plug is filled.

Any idea how to get around that?

Regards,

Wolfram

Blueneko · Post by **Blueneko** » Sat Oct 12, 2002 10:52 pm

Just jam that sucker in, the pin on the hpt366 controller either will bend and take shape, or pierce through the blocked hole on the ide cable, I usually just press firmly and give it a good piercing =D

Post by **Derek** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 9:32 am

gabumon wrote:Just jam that sucker in, the pin on the hpt366 controller either will bend and take shape, or pierce through the blocked hole on the ide cable, I usually just press firmly and give it a good piercing =D

Ummmm...

Sayang · Post by **Sayang** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 4:41 pm

RRLedford wrote:Wolfram,
I have (3) BP6 systems all runnibg WinXP-Pro. They all have Promise ATA100 cards in them. After many disk crashes & corruptions, I started to lose faith in the HPT366. When I did a CPU upgrade to Cele2 1.1GHz, the system would blue screen in 1-5Min with the Hdisk running from the HPT366. After I switched to the Promise card it's rock solid at 1.21GHz.
I will only use the HPT for Read-Only devices from now on. -Rich

It did systematically the same blue screen ("IRQL is not lower or equal") with Win2k (even when installing), with all the BIOS I found on BP6.com.
Since I realize one day the install work

. The change was: FSB increasing.

For me (mobo v1.0) some HPT366 access crashes under Win2k when at 66MHz !

You should try to OC, it makes the HPT366 driver steady.

Actually, the blue screen isn't due to a hardware error: the driver calls a function that the (kernel) context prevents him from calling (for ddk developpers, the call is made when the IRQLEVEL have wrong value!).
According to MSDN, this kind of "error" is due to cut & paste (when developping the driver).

RRLedford · Post by **RRLedford** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 10:01 pm

Sayang, I was trying to get the Cele2 1100MHz chip to boot off the HPT366 at standard 100MHz FSB - no good. Slowing down was no help. I did not try to go faster than the 100FSB as a way th solve the bluescreen crashes.
Is this what you are saying I should have done - faster FSB speed?
After I switced to the Promise card, going up to 110MHz was no problem.
I'm not going to test the HPT at faster than 100MHz as a way to get stability. Its has already outlived it's usefullness as a device controller.
In a pinch, I will plug in a READ ONLY (un-trashable) device to the HPT, but that's all I'm trusting it with in my systems. Getting all (3) systems upgraded to single P-III/1100E@1.21GHz has only been possible after eliminating the HPT as a Hdisk controller.

BCN · Post by **BCN** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 12:43 am

Oh, LLRedford!

I am 100% with you and agree with everything you say!

About read only devices.... well - I would not even put them on that controler...

I have tried my Lite-On 48x12x48 and I saw how it was behaving during burning....

burn/stop/burn/stop.... - everything in a rythm of a second and buffer was full.

Everything solved in the moment I have changed it to normal IDE after burning 2CD's on HPT.... I will NEVER EVER use it again for anything!..

No wonder why my HP CD-Writer was not able to write reliably on HPT at more than 2x speed... On IDE no problem at 8x - no kind of buffer underrun...

HPT666 is a total piece of shit!!!

Sayang · Post by **Sayang** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 7:41 am

RRLedford wrote:Sayang, I was trying to get the Cele2 1100MHz chip to boot off the HPT366 at standard 100MHz FSB - no good. Slowing down was no help. I did not try to go faster than the 100FSB as a way th solve the bluescreen crashes.
Is this what you are saying I should have done - faster FSB speed?

I just explain what happened to me: increasing the FSB worked!
My system is far different from yours: my FSB is only at 66 MHz with [very] slow Celeron Mendocino, compared to your [fast] PIII.

It's up to your to determine if you can reproduce what happens with my mobo, I am not a specialist, only an observer.