1.1Ghz Coppermine with NEO-S370 Adapter
Set the voltage to 1.75V, the FSB to 100MHz (Neo Jumper to 100MHz too). I'd get at least 350W-400W power supply. I'm running at 104MHz FSB now & about to crank it up a little faster. Get some Arctic Silver thermal paste & bsure to get the Heatsink flat on the CPU die. I'd strongly advise NOT using the HPT366 - get a Promise ATA100 or 133 card. I was not able to run Win-XP stable for more than a few minutes until I KILLED the HPT366.
hey where did you get that 1.1ghz coppermine? i need 2 for my asus board and i can't friggen convince these lame sales people that there is a difference between the tualatin and the coppermine cpu's. they won't guaranty against compatability, yet in their descriptions on pricewatch, they call the cpu's coppermines and tualatines in the SAME FLIRKEN SENTANCE!
the other thing i just noticed it the 1.1ghz cpu's are 100mhz bus, the 1.0 ghz is 133. hmm, maybe i should just get the 1ghz?
the other thing i just noticed it the 1.1ghz cpu's are 100mhz bus, the 1.0 ghz is 133. hmm, maybe i should just get the 1ghz?
- m0gely
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RR read what i said. and note what i did NOT say. i never said celeron and neither did the original post. and the whole reason i asked him is because of the confused people who advertise w/ pricewatch as desribed in my previous post.
oh, and gargos, a 300wt PS would be plenty. better to get good quality than more watt's and low quality. 350~400 is fine but you just don't need it w/ a bp6 system, unless you are running ALOT of periferals of the same PS. and no, occupying all the pci and isa slots does not mean your gonna run out of power. even if you had like 8 drives in the box, a good qual 300 would pull it off.
oh, and gargos, a 300wt PS would be plenty. better to get good quality than more watt's and low quality. 350~400 is fine but you just don't need it w/ a bp6 system, unless you are running ALOT of periferals of the same PS. and no, occupying all the pci and isa slots does not mean your gonna run out of power. even if you had like 8 drives in the box, a good qual 300 would pull it off.
- m0gely
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Sorry, I never thought of P-IIIs as members of the coppermine line. They are almost impossible to locate at the 1.1 GHz speed now. The 1.0GHz P-IIIs are being listed on E-bay regularly for about $90. There are two there as of last night. New 1.0GHz are going for about $150-160 if you can find stock. What gives with Intel - did they shut down the P-III production line for the higer clock speeds?
i dunno, intel's whole p3 line is wacked. why they had to come out w/ tualatins at all is a mystery to me.
p3 slot1 secc1 100mhz bus 512k cache katmai
p3 slot1 secc2 100mhz bus 512k cache katmai (no big diff here)
p3 slot1 secc2 133mhz bus coppermine 256k cache
p3 fcpga 100mhz bus 512k cache (katmai i think)
p3 fcpga 100mhz bus coppermine 256k cache
p3 fcpga 133mhz bus coppermine 256k cache
p3 fcpga2 133mhz bus tualatin 256k cache (no SMP)
p3 fcpga2 133mhz bus tualatin 512k cache (SMP capable)
and thats not including the celerons. most older BX slot1's only good up to 600Mhz 512K cache (the katmai core). This mainly due to the voltage regulator not being able to go below 2V (cu 1.65v). most newer BX boards can run all the way up to 1GHz, except for _some_ intel boards (and maybe a few others). a few can only go up to 850. doesn't really make sense to me but i have tried it, and my intel l440gx board said 1ghz not supported w/ the one i put in. then there was a few BX based s370 boards that supported the 100mhz cu fcpga, and 1 or 2 (abit) that officially supported the 133mhz bus cu's on a BX even though intel did not support that. So VIA was the only real solution for power users at that point since the 810/815 were lame chipsets that neither supported SMP or over 512mb ram, and most came w/ integrated crap out the yang. however when intel decided to make the tualatin (fcpga2), it required yet another platform and all our recently bought p3 boards were junk once again.
what is soo lame is that the p3 was already being phased out basically and then intel makes a whole new platform for the 1ghz to 1.4ghz tualatin p3's. and on top of that they were/are SPENDY. and they make 2 diff versions of that one (server proc 512k smp, workstation proc 256k no smp)!
p3 slot1 secc1 100mhz bus 512k cache katmai
p3 slot1 secc2 100mhz bus 512k cache katmai (no big diff here)
p3 slot1 secc2 133mhz bus coppermine 256k cache
p3 fcpga 100mhz bus 512k cache (katmai i think)
p3 fcpga 100mhz bus coppermine 256k cache
p3 fcpga 133mhz bus coppermine 256k cache
p3 fcpga2 133mhz bus tualatin 256k cache (no SMP)
p3 fcpga2 133mhz bus tualatin 512k cache (SMP capable)
and thats not including the celerons. most older BX slot1's only good up to 600Mhz 512K cache (the katmai core). This mainly due to the voltage regulator not being able to go below 2V (cu 1.65v). most newer BX boards can run all the way up to 1GHz, except for _some_ intel boards (and maybe a few others). a few can only go up to 850. doesn't really make sense to me but i have tried it, and my intel l440gx board said 1ghz not supported w/ the one i put in. then there was a few BX based s370 boards that supported the 100mhz cu fcpga, and 1 or 2 (abit) that officially supported the 133mhz bus cu's on a BX even though intel did not support that. So VIA was the only real solution for power users at that point since the 810/815 were lame chipsets that neither supported SMP or over 512mb ram, and most came w/ integrated crap out the yang. however when intel decided to make the tualatin (fcpga2), it required yet another platform and all our recently bought p3 boards were junk once again.
what is soo lame is that the p3 was already being phased out basically and then intel makes a whole new platform for the 1ghz to 1.4ghz tualatin p3's. and on top of that they were/are SPENDY. and they make 2 diff versions of that one (server proc 512k smp, workstation proc 256k no smp)!
- m0gely
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arr.. now you say celery....
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What does PowerLeap say the voltage should be set to - 1.65v? Did you preset your FSB clock to 100MHz on the BP6? I tried to start out slow and creep up the FSB clock speed --- total waste of time! Had to go right to 100MHZ before the bugger would be stable. Now I'm at 108 and holding solid! Getting rid of my no-name (NEC chip) USB 2.0 card just about eliminated my IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL frequent BSOD's too.
WinXP-Pro, 350W, SBLive 5.1, TNT2-Ultra/32M, 2901 SCSI, Promise ATA100, Linksys 10/100, Maxtor 60G/7200, LS120 Superdisk, Pioneer slot-load SCSI DVD, Plextor 12X SCSI/CAddy, No-name 16x10x32x CDRW, MS Intellimouse Explorer, MS-Natural KB Pro. I'm going up to 110MHz FSB this weekend!
WinXP-Pro, 350W, SBLive 5.1, TNT2-Ultra/32M, 2901 SCSI, Promise ATA100, Linksys 10/100, Maxtor 60G/7200, LS120 Superdisk, Pioneer slot-load SCSI DVD, Plextor 12X SCSI/CAddy, No-name 16x10x32x CDRW, MS Intellimouse Explorer, MS-Natural KB Pro. I'm going up to 110MHz FSB this weekend!
Now running Cele2/128K/100 1.1GHz now at 110MHz FSB with Win-XP.
System shows CPU speed of 1.21GHZ and running stable.
Heavy use peer file server & gaming PC.
Also runs Internet connection sharing of dialuo modem for (4) other PCs
Just ordered (2) 1.1GHz P-III CPUs for my other two BP6 systems.
I'll be shooting for 100MHz FSB with them too.
Knowing I can still do the Dual P-III mod down the road makes me os so happy with my three 3-year old BP6 systems!
Was there ever a better mainboard made?
System shows CPU speed of 1.21GHZ and running stable.
Heavy use peer file server & gaming PC.
Also runs Internet connection sharing of dialuo modem for (4) other PCs
Just ordered (2) 1.1GHz P-III CPUs for my other two BP6 systems.
I'll be shooting for 100MHz FSB with them too.
Knowing I can still do the Dual P-III mod down the road makes me os so happy with my three 3-year old BP6 systems!
Was there ever a better mainboard made?
Dual PIII 1.1Ghz cpu's
Would you mind sharing with us where you are getting your 1.1Ghz cpu's from? I'v been trying to locate a pair and have had no luck as of today!
Are these 1100E's?
Regards,
jaybird
Are these 1100E's?
Regards,
jaybird
Re: Dual PIII 1.1Ghz cpu's
[quote="jaybird"]Would you mind sharing with us where you are getting your 1.1Ghz cpu's from? I'v been trying to locate a pair and have had no luck as of today!
Are these 1100E's?
Yes, 1000E! But almost all are used pulls. New are very rare to find.
Well I started with E-Bay, and after loosing too many bids at prices ending at near or beyond $150, I changed my search spec to just "1100MHz" or "1.1Ghz", searching from the Home location. This gave a lot of SLOT1 & some mainboard results that had to be ignored, but then I started getting some good P-III 1100E listings that often did not show up when I drilled down to the P-III category.
I E-mailed one seller & he said he had (10) more P-III 1100E chips. We did the deal direct by phone - (2) @$125 ea., after getting him to send his company info by FAX (Q-Computer??). I'll post the PH numbers as soon as get the FAX from my office on Tue 9/3. -Rich
Are these 1100E's?
Yes, 1000E! But almost all are used pulls. New are very rare to find.
Well I started with E-Bay, and after loosing too many bids at prices ending at near or beyond $150, I changed my search spec to just "1100MHz" or "1.1Ghz", searching from the Home location. This gave a lot of SLOT1 & some mainboard results that had to be ignored, but then I started getting some good P-III 1100E listings that often did not show up when I drilled down to the P-III category.
I E-mailed one seller & he said he had (10) more P-III 1100E chips. We did the deal direct by phone - (2) @$125 ea., after getting him to send his company info by FAX (Q-Computer??). I'll post the PH numbers as soon as get the FAX from my office on Tue 9/3. -Rich
Re: Dual PIII 1.1Ghz cpu's
[quote="jaybird"]Would you mind sharing with us where you are getting your 1.1Ghz cpu's from? I'v been trying to locate a pair and have had no luck as of today!
Are these 1100E's?
Jaybird,
I should clarify, my 1ST BP6 only has the Celeron-2 1100Mhz/128K/100 upgrade. My next (2) systems are getting the P-III/1100E/256/100 chips.
BTW, I had to back off from the 110MHz to 108Mhz on the CELE2 because my TNT2-ultra video card started to blue screen WInXP-Pro under games like Warcraft-3. I have a Gforce2-Personal Cinema card with Tivo-like capability waiting to go in this system & now I'll have to see whether it can get me to the 110FSB speed.
CELE2@1188MHz+Neo370/(2) 256M-PC133/Promise ATA100/Maxtor 60G 7200/Adaptec 2910 SCSI/LS-120 superdisk boot floppy/Pioneer Slot load SCSI DVD/generic 16x-10x-48x CDRW/Plextor 12x Caddy CDROM(kids)/Wacom serial tablet/MS-intellimouse Explorer & Natural KB Pro/Viper TNT2-Ultra 32M Video/Linksys 10-100 LAN/Diamond USB modem/UMAX 12000S scanner.
Are these 1100E's?
Jaybird,
I should clarify, my 1ST BP6 only has the Celeron-2 1100Mhz/128K/100 upgrade. My next (2) systems are getting the P-III/1100E/256/100 chips.
BTW, I had to back off from the 110MHz to 108Mhz on the CELE2 because my TNT2-ultra video card started to blue screen WInXP-Pro under games like Warcraft-3. I have a Gforce2-Personal Cinema card with Tivo-like capability waiting to go in this system & now I'll have to see whether it can get me to the 110FSB speed.
CELE2@1188MHz+Neo370/(2) 256M-PC133/Promise ATA100/Maxtor 60G 7200/Adaptec 2910 SCSI/LS-120 superdisk boot floppy/Pioneer Slot load SCSI DVD/generic 16x-10x-48x CDRW/Plextor 12x Caddy CDROM(kids)/Wacom serial tablet/MS-intellimouse Explorer & Natural KB Pro/Viper TNT2-Ultra 32M Video/Linksys 10-100 LAN/Diamond USB modem/UMAX 12000S scanner.
Fired up the first of my two new P-III/1100E chips with EverCool(AOC) 715 Copper Heatsink/70mm Fan. Forgot to do the P-III BIOS update 1st & had to reinstall a Cele366 - Daaa. CPU running very cool with this rig.
Lots of trouble running Win-XP Pro in the 100-110MHz FSB range, and backed it down to 95MHz to get stable initially. Now I've crept back to just over 100MHz using BP6FSB.EXE utility & no problems for 16+ hours.
I've managed to keep the sound level way down by using the oversize 70mm CPU fan with a Zalman speed controller to slow it down a little.
Also put a Zalman Large passive heatsing on the Gforce2 chip with a Vantec 80mm low-noise fan, mounted above the cards, sucking ducted fresh air & blowing it straight down on the Zalman sink.
I'm getting another large Zalman passive chipset heatsink like the one used on the Gforce2 card, to replace the greenie. Then 110+FSB I hope.
Check out the www.nexfan.com site for some good cooling & H/W deals.
They have 24" rounded ATA66-133 silver braid 2-device cables for $9.
Lots of trouble running Win-XP Pro in the 100-110MHz FSB range, and backed it down to 95MHz to get stable initially. Now I've crept back to just over 100MHz using BP6FSB.EXE utility & no problems for 16+ hours.
I've managed to keep the sound level way down by using the oversize 70mm CPU fan with a Zalman speed controller to slow it down a little.
Also put a Zalman Large passive heatsing on the Gforce2 chip with a Vantec 80mm low-noise fan, mounted above the cards, sucking ducted fresh air & blowing it straight down on the Zalman sink.
I'm getting another large Zalman passive chipset heatsink like the one used on the Gforce2 card, to replace the greenie. Then 110+FSB I hope.
Check out the www.nexfan.com site for some good cooling & H/W deals.
They have 24" rounded ATA66-133 silver braid 2-device cables for $9.
With new P-III/1100E+Neo370 => NO BOOT, when FSB speed set faster than 98MHz.
Systems hangs at the Promise ATA100 load & detect devices.
Only the Maxtor 40G drive is on Promise, no devices on HPT366.
Can boot XP @98MHz and then raise the FSB to 110MHz - runs stable.
(1)P-III/1100E, (1) 256 PC133, Gforce2/64M-MX200, 300W compUSA, 40G Maxtor.5400, adaptec USB 2.0 card, Logitech cordless freedom KB/mouse on USB, LS120 Superfloppy, pioneer slot load IDE DVD/CDROM, SMC wireless USB LAN adapter. SERIOUS COOLING on all hot chips!
Systems hangs at the Promise ATA100 load & detect devices.
Only the Maxtor 40G drive is on Promise, no devices on HPT366.
Can boot XP @98MHz and then raise the FSB to 110MHz - runs stable.
(1)P-III/1100E, (1) 256 PC133, Gforce2/64M-MX200, 300W compUSA, 40G Maxtor.5400, adaptec USB 2.0 card, Logitech cordless freedom KB/mouse on USB, LS120 Superfloppy, pioneer slot load IDE DVD/CDROM, SMC wireless USB LAN adapter. SERIOUS COOLING on all hot chips!
(Just Kidding)PIII 1100E & NEO370S
SMP is not enabled on the standard 370S. Check this sites index for required modifications.
Regards,
jaybird
Regards,
jaybird
agw,
What is the H/W spec of your BP6 system?
Are you running the Hdisk from the HPT366 controller?
If so, don't give up so quickly - I had to switch to a Promise card before I could run stable with each of my 1100Mhz single CPU BP6s.
My Cele2-1100@108MHz is good now, but no SMP.
My P-III/1100E@110=1.21GHz really rocks! Much better than the (2) Cele1-366@500MHz that it replaced. Still considering the SMP on it.
What is the H/W spec of your BP6 system?
Are you running the Hdisk from the HPT366 controller?
If so, don't give up so quickly - I had to switch to a Promise card before I could run stable with each of my 1100Mhz single CPU BP6s.
My Cele2-1100@108MHz is good now, but no SMP.
My P-III/1100E@110=1.21GHz really rocks! Much better than the (2) Cele1-366@500MHz that it replaced. Still considering the SMP on it.