533: SL3FZ or SL3PZ?

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533: SL3FZ or SL3PZ?

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which one is better? does anyone have some experiences? i've got the both pairs, but don't know which ones are the better ones? :D
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What are you using them for?
Do you need low heat generation,
or more processing potential?
There are *almost* no bad BP6s. There are mostly bad caps.

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davd_bob wrote:What are you using them for?
Do you need low heat generation,
or more processing potential?

i need more processing potencial...and trhese FZ are at 50 deg celsius right now with UD agent running!

can you tell me what do you know about those two versions...so i can make up my mind!?!?!?!
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only guessing, but the BX805...... sounds like the boxed version.
according to INtels cpu spec sheet, they are identical apart from a 'typo' on clock multiplier
so maybe the FV805.... chips were for OEM tray distibution ?

with pooor air flow and not good cpu greasing, 50 degrees is easy to get to.
mine are usually 35-45 depeneding on summer/winter
bp6's 3 x dual @ 533
. . . . 1 x dual @ 466
. . . . 1 sngl @ 400
[( 2 x dual xeon 2.4ghz )]
[( 2 x dual xeon 2.66ghz )]
[( 1 x 2.4C ghz )]
[( 1 x 2.4B ghz )]
[( 1 x dual AMD 1800MP )]
[( 1 x P4 1600 )]
[( 1 x 500 ppga )]
3 x piii 866
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Post by davd_bob »

It wont matter which pair you use or even if you mix them up

Im sure you wont find any real differance in how they preform. Those are the fastest chips in the Medocino Celeron series and you wont gain much by overclocking them. HOWEVER at 66FSB you can probably run them on 1.85Volts which will make less heat.

If you want speed, try get some 366s and run at 100FSB.
There are *almost* no bad BP6s. There are mostly bad caps.

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Dave Rave wrote:only guessing, but the BX805...... sounds like the boxed version.
according to INtels cpu spec sheet, they are identical apart from a 'typo' on clock multiplier
so maybe the FV805.... chips were for OEM tray distibution ?

with pooor air flow and not good cpu greasing, 50 degrees is easy to get to.
mine are usually 35-45 depeneding on summer/winter

so, you are saying SL3FZ are OEM and SL3PZ are BOXED version of procesor, right?!?!?!
and if i switch from FZ to PZ, the heat would go down (now is about 50 deg celsius, 50+-5 deg)...and what is the difference in the "typo" on clock multiplier?
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well, I'm saying from a different factory production line, with one set of cpus going into pretty plastic boxes, and the other into trays, there might not be any difference at all.

the typo, one is listed as multiplier 8.0 and the other said 8.1 for some strange reason.

heat, would be no different.
i was saying mine run 50 degrees, but ....
what was I saying ?
bp6's 3 x dual @ 533
. . . . 1 x dual @ 466
. . . . 1 sngl @ 400
[( 2 x dual xeon 2.4ghz )]
[( 2 x dual xeon 2.66ghz )]
[( 1 x 2.4C ghz )]
[( 1 x 2.4B ghz )]
[( 1 x dual AMD 1800MP )]
[( 1 x P4 1600 )]
[( 1 x 500 ppga )]
3 x piii 866
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so here is the text from the SiSoft Sandra:

SiSoftware Sandra

Mainboard
Manufacturer : <http://www.abit.com.tw>
MP Support : 2 CPU(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : i440BX-W83977 (BP6)
System BIOS : 12/16/2002-i440BX-W83977-2A69KA1SC-RV
Chipset : Intel 440BX/DX/ZX

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 3
Bank0/1 - DIMM1 : DIMM EDRAM 256MB/64
Bank2/3 - DIMM2 : DIMM EDRAM 128MB/64
Bank4/5 - DIMM3 : DIMM EDRAM 128MB/64

Chipset 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82443BX/ZX 440BX/ZX CPU to PCI Bridge (AGP Implemented)
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 68MHz (68MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 1x 100MHz / 1x 100MHz
Width : 64-bit
SMP - MP Capability : Yes
IO Queue Depth : 4 request(s)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 128MB SDRAM 2-2-2-0CL
Bank 1 : 128MB SDRAM 2-2-2-0CL
Bank 2 : 128MB SDRAM 2-2-2-0CL
Bank 4 : 128MB SDRAM 2-2-2-0CL
Speed : 1x 68MHz (68MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/1x
Width : 64-bit
Refresh Rate : 15.60µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

APIC 1
Version : 1.01
Speed : 17MHz
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module 1 : Tristar MPGB63S-68KX3-MAB 256MB 16x(16Mx8) SDRAM PC133U-333-5412 (CL3 up to 133MHz) (CL2 up to 100MHz)
Memory Module 2 : Kingmax Semiconductor MPJA83S-68KX3-EBA 128MB 8x(16Mx8) SDRAM PC133U-333-5412 (CL3 up to 133MHz) (CL2 up to 100MHz)
Memory Module 3 : Kingmax Semiconductor MPJA83S-68KX3-EBA 128MB 8x(16Mx8) SDRAM PC133U-333-5412 (CL3 up to 133MHz) (CL2 up to 100MHz)

System Clock Generator
Model : ICS 9248-90
Software Programmable : Yes
Read-Back Support : Yes
Speed Selected By : Software
Spread Spectrum Modulated : Yes
Number of FSB Speeds : 32
FSB Speed Range : 66 - 133MHz

Environment Monitor 1
Model : Winbond W83782D ISA
Version : 3.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 39.0°C / 102.2°F
CPU1 Temperature : 44.5°C / 112.1°F
CPU2 Temperature : 46.0°C / 114.8°F

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU1 Voltage : 1.98V
CPU2 Voltage : 1.98V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.28V
+5V Voltage : 4.95V
+12V Voltage : 12.40V
-12V Voltage : -12.20V
-5V Voltage : -5.35V
Standby Voltage : 5.05V
Battery Voltage : 2.00V

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 1.00
Speed : 2x 68MHz (136MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/1x
Side Band Enabled : Yes
Aperture Size : 64MB

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.10
Number of Bridges : 1
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (34MHz)
Multiplier : 1/2x

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82371EB/MB PIIX4E/M ISA Bridge
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Multiplier : 1/4x
Speed : 8MHz
DMA Multiplier : 1/2x
DMA Speed : 4MHz

USB Controller 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4/E/M USB Controller
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi) ALI M5237 OpenHCI USB Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 2
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3
Model : Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi) ALI M5237 OpenHCI USB Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 2
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 4
Model : Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi) ALI M5237 OpenHCI USB Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 2
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 5
Model : Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi) USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 6
Companion Controllers : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : Intel/VIA PIIX4 SMBus
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : Yes
PEC Support : No
Speed : 16kHz

Expansion Slot(s)
ISA : ISA 16-bit +5V Full-Length
ISA : ISA 16-bit +5V Full-Length
PCI (Fh) : PCI 32-bit +5V Full-Length Available
PCI (Dh) : PCI 32-bit +5V Full-Length Used (D-Link Inc DFE-538TX Fast Ethernet Adapter)
PCI (13h) : PCI 32-bit +5V Full-Length Used (HighPoint Technologies Inc HPT3xx UDMA66/100/133 EIDE Controller)
PCI (9h) : PCI 32-bit +5V Full-Length Used (3Dfx Interactive Inc 3Dfx Voodoo2 Chipset)
PCI (8h) : PCI 32-bit +5V Full-Length Available
PCI (F0h) : PCI 32-bit +5V Full-Length Available
AGP (8h) : AGP 32-bit +5V Full-Length Used (Hercules 3D PROPHET 4500 TV OUT)

Port Connector
PRIMARY IDE : None - ATA / None
SECONDARY IDE : None - ATA / None
FDD : 8251 FIFO - Floppy Disk / None
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM2 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard - None / PS/2
PS/2 Mouse - Detected : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2
USB : USB - None / None

Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Warning 2508 : All memory slots are full. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2548 : Speed set by software. For reliability, consider by jumpers/switch.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.



so my CPUs are running the same UD agent as before...but with SL3PZ the temp has gone down!!! and it has gone down considerably for MBO chipset, which was about over 40 deg celsius with SL3FZ, and FZ proc were about 50deg Celsius in durring UD load... :D

so, there is some difference after all!!!
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Post by davd_bob »

klik,
not to split hairs or anything, but if you swapped CPUs that means you re-greased and re-installed the HSFs which could explain them being cooler.

a more likely possability is that one or both of the other cpus has some internal problem causing the BX to work harder which would create more heat. unless you know the history of a those cpus you don't know if someone let it/them get to hot previously with permanant damage.

in either case, stick with the pair you have. you should get at least a little OCing out of them since they run that well.
There are *almost* no bad BP6s. There are mostly bad caps.

No BP6s remaining
Athlon 2800
Sempron 2000
ViaCPU laptop with Vista.(Works great after bumping ram to 2Gig)
P-III 850@100
davd_bob
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Post by davd_bob »

klik,
not to split hairs or anything, but if you swapped CPUs that means you re-greased and re-installed the HSFs which could explain them being cooler.

a more likely possability is that one or both of the other cpus has some internal problem causing the BX to work harder which would create more heat. unless you know the history of a those cpus you don't know if someone let it/them get to hot previously with permanant damage.

in either case, stick with the pair you have. you should get at least a little OCing out of them since they run that well.
There are *almost* no bad BP6s. There are mostly bad caps.

No BP6s remaining
Athlon 2800
Sempron 2000
ViaCPU laptop with Vista.(Works great after bumping ram to 2Gig)
P-III 850@100
KliK
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Post by KliK »

davd_bob wrote:klik,
not to split hairs or anything, but if you swapped CPUs that means you re-greased and re-installed the HSFs which could explain them being cooler.

a more likely possability is that one or both of the other cpus has some internal problem causing the BX to work harder which would create more heat. unless you know the history of a those cpus you don't know if someone let it/them get to hot previously with permanant damage.

in either case, stick with the pair you have. you should get at least a little OCing out of them since they run that well.

maybe that is it!
i'll post some pics on the net later...so you can see how did i changed them... ;) also i fitted two 80x80mm fans on 80x80mm coolers...

so if u ask me, TITAN D5TB is the good one!!!
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