Pimpin ass Socket 7 233mmx @ 392 mhz

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Pimpin ass Socket 7 233mmx @ 392 mhz

Post by chemicall »

Have a kickass ( im being sarcastic btw) Socket 7 233mmx clocked to 392mhz ( 112 fsb x 3.5 ) @ 3.2 volts, running at about 37 degrees full load.
to back it up, heres the specs
512 pc133 ram
epox mvp-epc2 mainboard 2x/4x agp
socket A hs and 5000 rpm 50mm fan
awe 32 isa sound
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Post by davd_bob »

Is is a Super7 board?
I had one and put a K6-III 400 on it. 2x AGP and one meg L3 cache with that K6-III. It would smoke a Pentium3 400 in apps and bench tests. I ran Windows 95 on it. When I hit shutdown the power was off within one second.
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Post by Post Nazi »

Well it was actually me who wrote that, i had the wrong account on it, but m next project is a k6-2 550, my board has a multiplyer of 6 and a 112 fsb on it, then ill throw 768 in it, a 675 with a gforce4 mx ddr, i can pump out a few games.

btw, how do i unlock the multipliers on a socket 7 mmx?
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Post by Post Nazi »

Well it was actually me who wrote that, i had the wrong account on it, but m next project is a k6-2 550, my board has a multiplyer of 6 and a 112 fsb on it, then ill throw 768 in it, a 675 with a gforce4 mx ddr, i can pump out a few games.

btw, how do i unlock the multipliers on a socket 7 mmx?
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Post by Post Nazi »

Well it was actually me who wrote that, i had the wrong account on it, but m next project is a k6-2 550, my board has a multiplyer of 6 and a 112 fsb on it, then ill throw 768 in it, a 675 with a gforce4 mx ddr, i can pump out a few games.

btw, how do i unlock the multipliers on a socket 7 mmx?
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Post by headseed »

I know of no single socket 7 boards that will take that much RAM. As far as multipliers, there are usually jumpers on the motherboard that will change the multiplier, sometimes there are the settings silkscreened on next to the jumpers. Just like when you changed the voltage for the 233 voltage OC.
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Post by davd_bob »

Im with headseed. Its doubtful a socket7 will take 768 meg. Probably two 128megs sticks is all it will take.

Socket 7 cpus are not locked. Intel started that crap with Pentium 2 cpus.

As to the K6-2 550 I say to get a K6-III. ..depends on what you want. I used both on a Soyo 5EMH and the III at 400 outpreformed the 2 at 600MHz. Use the fastest FSB(with CL2 ram for that speed) you can and then use whatever multiplier keeps the cpu running at the max stable speed. Remember to NOT OC the cards to much...it took me a while to realize my system wouldnt boot, not because of the cpu, but my really old ATI 32meg AGP couldnt go as fast as I was trying to run it. As to the K6-III series, there are some that are more overclockable then others. Research it before getting one. Mine was the less OC'able version and it was unstable past about 420.

I cannot stress enough that on-die cache is so critical. Just like hard drives, as a rule the more of it you have the faster your system will preform.
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Post by purrkur »

I am still running a Super7/K6-2 system. The processor I am running is the 500MHz variant and I use the computer as my internet server (my webpage, database server etc). As davd_bob mentioned, on-die cache is extremely important (which we also learned when Intel released their first Celerons without on-die cache), however the regular K6-2 is not a bad performer, depending on what you want to do with it.

What sets the regular K6-2 apart from the early Celerons is that the K6-2 actually has some cache. Just not a lot of it I am afraid (64KB). The K6-2 is a good allround performer except when you have to do calculations because the ALU in the K6 was always the weakest point of the CPU. This is one of the reasons why it isn't a good processor for doing stuff like playing games and compiling stuff etc. If you are doing things like running a database, webserver and so on then it will probably beat a similarly clocked PII but as soon as you do intensive math then it will be blown out of the water by slower Intel chips. So for running server type functionality then I would say that the regular K6-2 would do just fine while if you want to use it for desktop use then get the K6's with a larger cache. If you want to overclock then the older version of the K6-3 (running at max 450MHz) is a terrible option because it won't do much more than that. My K6-2 will do 600MHz without any problems whatsoever.

There are other K6 processors found out there called K6-2+ and K6-3+ which are the latest releases of the processor, meant for notebook use, but some desktop motherboards can run these versions of the processors. You need to be able to lower the voltage to the cpu down to 2 volts if I remember correctly. You can find these for sale sometimes on E-Bay.

There is another big issue with the Super7 platform that hasn't been mentioned here. The chipsets used on these boards comes from VIA and it is called the MVP3 chipset. These chipsets are horrible performers when it comes to harddisk performance. They are simply horrible. My 500MHz K6 machine has a 40gig Seagate disk and I also have another machine (266MHz PII) running the exact same harddisk. The disk performance on the PII will blow the K6 system out of the water! When I first set up Debian on my K6, DMA was activated but not much more. With those settings my PII (also running Debian) had transfer speeds that were more than double that of the K6. I have tweaked and tuned and brought up disk performance by quite a lot but I am still unable to reach the speeds that my PII gives me. So if you want to use the K6 as a desktop machine then this issue will be a big one for you. Get yourself a IDE PCI card to run your disks from or use your K6 like I do, doing work where transfer speeds isn't the most important thing.

If you want to read more on the K6 then go to this link at Ace's Hardware (Optimising Super7 systems) or this link where they test the K6-2+ against the older vanilla flavour K6-2's.
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Post by davd_bob »

K6-2 most overclockable socket 7 chip made
K6-3 450 most productive of the series if OC'ed
K6-2+ most overclockable socket7 with a decent L2 cache...128K
K6-3+ best mobile socket 7

Purrker, if I haden't got rid of my K6-III just before I found out you have a super7 I would have shipped you the CPU...but its gone now.
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davd_bob wrote:Purrker, if I haden't got rid of my K6-III just before I found out you have a super7 I would have shipped you the CPU...but its gone now.
Sad to hear that you don't have it anymore but thanks anyway davd_bob!
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Post by Post Nazi »

Ive had 768 running on my epox board, the last flash is in april of 2000, runs good at 615 mhz
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Post by davd_bob »

That board would be wicked fast as long as your OS knows how to handle that much ram. What size is the L2 cache on the MOBO?
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Post by headseed »

What chipset does that Epox board use? Aladin, MVP, TX, etc?
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Post by headseed »

What chipset does that Epox board use? Aladin, MVP, TX, etc?
The three memory slots can accommodate up to 384 Mbytes of PC-100 or 66 Mhz memory; but, the 1 MByte of cache' with 8 tag bits will only cache' 256 MBytes of it. 256 Mbytes is, therefore, the practical memory limit.
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Post by purrkur »

headseed wrote:What chipset does that Epox board use? Aladin, MVP, TX, etc?
Headseed: The Epox board uses the VIA MVP3 chipset. The quote you had is most probably right (I haven't doublechecked it though). When these boards were made, 256 megs of memory was a lot and I don't think they were built with extreme memory requirements in mind. Even at the time, this chipset/CPU was for buyers on a tight budget, not performance seekers.

Anybody know what the reasonable limit for the BP6 is? Can it use 768 megs if you got 3x256 megs installed?
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Post by nullshark »

The manual states that all 3 DIMM slots can take 256MB sticks for a total of 768MB (single or double density DIMMS, only).
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Post by davd_bob »

Hey !!!
I got it today...a Gateway 2000 P120XL.
Socket-5
Pentium 120
64 meg 4 EDO SIMMs 16 meg each
It also has the coolest CD drive. There is a case that ejects...it holds 3 cds. Its only a Quad spin but I can have about 3 hours of music without having to swap CDs.
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