Opinions about upgrading to a Celeron 1100

ts4967 · Post by **ts4967** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:52 pm

I'm already running a Cele 800 with the Neo adapter. I found the Cele 1100, 100MHz FSB with 128k of cache for about $40 and I'm thinking of upgrading it.

Think I should???

Is anyone else running the 1100s with the Neo adapter? Will the HSF that came with the Neo keep an 1100 cool enough?

P.S. - I only want to run 1 CPU. I could care less about SMP-ing it.

Let me know - Thanks.

Post by **Derek** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:37 pm

Well, for 40 bucks you can't go wrong. You could also get a Pentium 3 running in there for even more performance.

HAL6000 · Post by **HAL6000** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:42 am

I think I still have my celly 1100 around here. Did you buy one for $40 or find it for that?

ts4967 · Post by **ts4967** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 12:01 pm

Derek - Yeah, I was thinking about getting a PIII, but I've seen them cost twice as much as the Cele's, so in the price vs. performance upgrade for my second machine- I'm going to go on the cheap end here.

HAL6000 - I've seen them for sale and was thinking about buying them. Hey, if it'll work right out of the box for $40- I'll do it. I don't want to be spending my whole weekend getting ulcers trying to get this to work.

HAL6000 · Post by **HAL6000** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 3:20 pm

ts4967 wrote:HAL6000 - I've seen them for sale and was thinking about buying them. Hey, if it'll work right out of the box for $40- I'll do it. I don't want to be spending my whole weekend getting ulcers trying to get this to work.

I was digging through stuff last night and I could not find it. I am guessing I may have already sold it. The FC-PGA1 1100, 128k cache, will work just as your 800 is now.

If you get a FC-PGA2 1100, 256k cache, you will need one of those lin lin adaptors with your neo or you could just use two lin lin adaptors. I do not thin kthere are other mods that have to be done when using those adaptors but I'd double check before doing anythnig crazy

RRLedford · Post by **RRLedford** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:36 pm

ts4960,
I've got a couple Cele1100/128 CPUs I'm looking to unload - one brand new & one used 3mos. - tested good to 1210Mhz on an ABIT BP6.

Any offers >$35 will get serious consideration.

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:33 am

$35 a piece or $35 for both?

RRLedford · Post by **RRLedford** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:32 pm

Minimum $35 for one (unless prices have dropped on E-bay a lot since I last checked.
The new one came to me via an E_Bay scam artist who listed it in the P-III section of the CPUs. I paid $100 for what should have been a P-III/1100E CPU. E-Bay & PayPal refused to do anything about blatant fraud & he would not refund.

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:36 pm

that sucks

i f i can get my grubby fingers on a dual FCPGA board i might get em.. but i dont thing the celeron 2's are SMP?

headseed · Post by **headseed** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:19 am

i f i can get my grubby fingers on a dual FCPGA board i might get em.. but i dont thing the celeron 2's are SMP?

Nope, unfortunately, the celeron 2 are not SMP capable.

HAL6000 · Post by **HAL6000** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:47 am

kuun wrote:that sucks

i f i can get my grubby fingers on a dual FCPGA board i might get em.. but i dont thing the celeron 2's are SMP?

Powerleap makes slot 1 to FC-PGA2 converters so you can run 1.4Ghz in a board like the Asus P3C-D

http://plpadmin.tempdomainname.com/PLiP3T.html

hyperspace · Post by **hyperspace** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:37 am

HAL6000 wrote:
kuun wrote:that sucks

i f i can get my grubby fingers on a dual FCPGA board i might get em.. but i dont thing the celeron 2's are SMP?
Powerleap makes slot 1 to FC-PGA2 converters so you can run 1.4Ghz in a board like the Asus P3C-D

http://plpadmin.tempdomainname.com/PLiP3T.html

Maybe the Slot1 converter and 1.4 PIII will be cheaper than the 866 or 933 Slot1 PIII's I have been pricing. Xcellent!

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:54 pm

yeah derek awesomeness

HAL6000 · Post by **HAL6000** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:03 pm

P3-S 1.4Ghz chips are still about $200. I am currently using my 1.4 with only a 100mhz bus so it is running 1050mhz and it pumps out more wu's then a 1ghz pp3 with a 133 bus. Must be that 512k of L2 cache

hyperspace · Post by **hyperspace** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:20 pm

HAL6000 wrote:P3-S 1.4Ghz chips are still about $200. I am currently using my 1.4 with only a 100mhz bus so it is running 1050mhz and it pumps out more wu's then a 1ghz pp3 with a 133 bus. Must be that 512k of L2 cache

If I can find a socket converter that supports Tualatin/dual, then the converter/Ghz will be cheaper than the SECC2 PIII's!

I thought I read more L2 cache is great for SETI (:?:)

HAL6000 · Post by **HAL6000** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:10 pm

hyperspace wrote: I thought I read more L2 cache is great for SETI (:?:)

Yes that is what I am saying. The 1.4Ghz underclocked to 1050mhz, 100mhz bus, 512k cache is faster then a 1ghz, 133 bus, 256k cache.

My plan was to get slocket converters and another 1.4ghz p3 and run them on my Asus P3C-D with 1GB of rambus.

hyperspace · Post by **hyperspace** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:13 pm

HAL6000 wrote:My plan was to get slocket converters and another 1.4ghz p3 and run them on my Asus P3C-D with 1GB of rambus.

I have a P3C-D, as well. Need more than just processors and RAM before I can bring it to life.

HAL6000 · Post by **HAL6000** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:20 pm

hyperspace wrote:
HAL6000 wrote:My plan was to get slocket converters and another 1.4ghz p3 and run them on my Asus P3C-D with 1GB of rambus.
I have a P3C-D, as well. Need more than just processors and RAM before I can bring it to life.

What else you need i have a load of stuff I am needing to get rid out of here. Need a case with power supply, floppy, cd-rom or cd-rw, hard drive(s), memory, video card, & nic? lol

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:07 pm

mmmm

i'd LOVE a 512K l2 cache cpu........

*drool*

thats why dual p3's would be better i nthe bp6 than the celerons... more cache is always better

RRLedford · Post by **RRLedford** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 1:06 am

It's so sad that the P-III CPU prices remain so artificially high - especially the 512K cache ones. Instead of dropping with age and a newer generation appearing, they jute seem to be going up even.

hyperspace · Post by **hyperspace** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:06 am

RRLedford wrote:It's so sad that the P-III CPU prices remain so artificially high - especially the 512K cache ones. Instead of dropping with age and a newer generation appearing, they jute seem to be going up even.

Glad to see you feel the same way I do. A 933/133 PIII SECC2 costs around $250. I don't get it.

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 1:31 pm

ouch

whats with that?

i don't understand how or even why some hardware is even sold anymore because of the prices some people charge

you'd think with faster CPU's out now they'd be hella cheapo like te durons but they're no..

it's unreasonable.. i want some p3's but can't affor $500 for a dual setup

InactiveX · Post by **InactiveX** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:18 pm

CPUs with larger caches cost so much because the manufacturing yield is significantly lower per wafer than with the smaller cache chips.

hyperspace · Post by **hyperspace** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:54 pm

InactiveX wrote:CPUs with larger caches cost so much because the manufacturing yield is significantly lower per wafer than with the smaller cache chips.

Volume. Figures. Thanx, InactiveX.

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:41 pm

you mean.. chips with higher cache aren't produced as much ?