cant get both cpus to work!

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Sheesh, right on bro! It took me 30 years to learn that!

All that a side, its' good to have some one here that not only understands the basics but is also willing to share there knowledge with us! :)

Regards,

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OBTW,

My wife continues to give me a raft of "crap" :wink: because I am still messing with "old" technology(I also mess around with older cars, I have a 1961 Ford fastback with a supercharged 454 FE big-block in it (mark that 800 hp+ on a dyno!) that I drive on Sunday's :wink: ) will have pictures shortly.

(I "over-clock every thing!" :lol: )

Again, thanks for your input, thats what this forum is all about.

Regards,

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You are welcome Jaybird. I only wish I had more time to spend on forums like this one :)

Looking forward to those pics of your car!
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finally i did it...replaced all caps =>1000µF. nothing happened..just one cpu...the resoldered atx some of the caps that i think should be related to vcore1...still nothing. after that i resoldered my exchange coil (6 windings) and then BINGO. did it works flawlessly is folding proteins since 3h. will work over night! thanks for all your help. maybe i ll try some overclock later this week!

Thx again Tobi
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Thrakath wrote:after that i resoldered my exchange coil (6 windings) and then BINGO. did it works flawlessly is folding proteins since 3h.
Hmmm. That sounds like you had a cold solder joint. What happens is that you heat the solder too much and you don't heat one of the points that you are trying to join. What happens is that contact may be non-existent or sporadic.

Usually the cold solder points are easy to spot. Solder that has been heated too much looses its shine and becomes gray and dull. Sometimes you can also see how the solder is not touching one of the solder points at all.
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board is still unstable in winXP...sometimes it runs folding@home for several hours with no crash...then it crashes while its functioning only as a internet router. maybe its the bp6 ventilator management? or are there known incompatiblities with winxp or other progs?

Voltages seem to be stable...no drops with folding!

Thx Thrak
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get your MBM on it
leave it doing nothing
zero the high/low stats
come back tomorrow and see what the voltage ranges are
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Post by jaybird »

Your problem may be caused by to value of the EC10 replacement. From all I have read and from personnal experience it should be 1500uuf. If below this value board may be unstable and have random lock-ups in WIN2K/XP.

Good luck!

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Thanks i will try replacing the Ec10 with a bigger cap!
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also sometimes some lock-ups do come from USB ports...other from PS/2 ports...

for USB do not assign the IRQ for the port!
for PS/2 you have some fix on this pages...search a little...can't find it right know...it is mentioning keyboard & mouse lock-ups!!
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Post by Dave Rave »

i had one replaced with a 1000uf cap.
it is better, the voltage swings are less.

used to be 1.36v - 1.67v sort of. forget actually.
with a 1000uf it's around 1.45-1.54
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Replaced the 1000µF EC10 with a 6.3V 2200µF one. Also disabled USB IRQ!I have no USB connected at all. Just a PS2 Keyboard. No monitor but a S3 PCI Graphics Card. A Realtek ISA NIC and a Compaq/Intel 10/100 NIC for Internet Routing. Is there any incompatibility known with one of these cards? which pci slot should i use cause of sharing?
The board is making sandra burn in for 20h now with no error. maybe its a problem with dyndns or my ftp server...im just remote controlling and havent attached a monitor after crashes...
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back from the dead!

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I am posting this from my original R .40 V 1.0 BP6 board (yeah, the same one that ran dual 1100E's for 4 years!).

I removed and re-installed a 1500uf 6.3 volt cap on the EC10 and BAM! Johnny 5's older brother is a live!

At present I am running the same dual 366's from the "other (R .41)" board @ 572 FSB. Everything else is the same.

I have noted that this board seems to be more responsive and I can over-clock just a tad more and it will allow me to use up to 2.30 volts on the cpu's while the other board (R .41) would lock up at anything over 2.10 volts.

I am awaiting my 1100E replacement from AU to see if I can replicate the dual 1100E's on this board again.

Will lightning strike twice?

Only time will tell.

OBTW, ran my dual 433's on this board and they went to 584 while they would only go to 550 on the other board.

Very interesting??????? :wink:

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now it runs rock stable...folding proteins and hunting aliens! 2200µF seems to be enough. now i am looking for tualatin adapters to get PIII and Celeron II FCPGA to work. But those at ebay are just in USA with a shipment of 10€=$ each...i have to collect some more money. The 533Mhz Celeron was a great overclocker if i remember right?! Goes from 66 to 100Mhz FSB and bam 850Mhz. Maybe this one is the right choice! Or some PIII....133Mhz is impossible on bp6? or just with dual cpu?

Greets from germany
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Sorry, 533's are the WORST over-clocking Celerons made!

Reason, the high multiplier!

366's are king on this board for over-all performance. Why? look at FSB (100 or above) on overclocked speed (550 and above) STABLE!

This macine is presently @ 572 or (583 but not while on the internet).

I have tried matched and lapped sets of:
366's, 400's, 433's, 466's, and 500's

The higher the initial clock speed, the less of an over-clock!

Have NEVER heard of a BP6 @ 133 FSB, even with ALL the mods possible!

However, PIII's, 600 to 1100 with a FSB of 100 can be made to work.

Good luck,

jaybird
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Post by headseed »

You are thinking of the 566 coppermine celerons that are 8.5x66, at 100=850mhz. They are not SMP capable, so you can run one, not two. I have one and the Neo S370 adapter necessary for coppermines in the BP6. Was pretty fast but only uni-processor.
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