Wireless Networks

Post by **Derek** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:08 pm

Anyone running wireless networks at home? I'm going to setup one soon for my Laptops but wanted some input from you guys first.

hyperspace · Post by **hyperspace** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:47 pm

Make sure your wireless router has security features that will restrict remote access. Not only administrative access but also controlling who gets an IP address through DHCP or not allowing access if the IP address has been restricted (No DHCP) on the router.

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:37 pm

hehehehe

i just setup a wireless router yesterday (by remote)

i want wireless.. it'd be alot nicer than friggin 100ft wires

InactiveX · Post by **InactiveX** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:09 am

Nah, loads of wires around the place impresses girls.

That is, until they move in with you...

RRLedford · Post by **RRLedford** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:00 am

Don't even get me started on this one!
I live in wireless hell & am planning my escape to Gigabit Heaven soon.
Just got an 8-port gigabit switch for $165 Intel Gigabit sever NIC $59, (3) Intel Pro1000 workstation gigabit NICs $110

Rules & pointers for Wireless:
1) Absolutely only get H/W from the same manufacturer & similar vintage.
Interoperability between brands when you have a problem, rapidlly becomes a big Myth!

2) You have little control of how much interference comes at you from surroundings. This can take you down at random & drive you totally crazy. How many other 2.4GHz devices are already in your home or on their way? Is your microwave leaky? Nearby neighbors?

3) The H/W bundled driver & software utility, and Microsoft's built in wireles support S/W will have to fight it out to see who is really, actually going to be in control of your 802.11_ devices at any given time. This will lead to trouble sooner or later. You will struggle mightly to remember the 17 different places to go and tweak various setings when it just will not work.

This list goes on-and-on. Encryption? How do you get a 40-bit scheme device talking to a 64-bit scheme device? Who can you strangle?
I'll continue over the next few days.

Post by **Derek** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:20 am

Thank you for the comments. I will make sure to buy the same brand wireless devices and then take it from there. I’ll have to pay close attention to encryption; I live downtown and who knows how many people will want in.

InactiveX wrote:Nah, loads of wires around the place impresses girls.

That is, until they move in with you...

Don't get me started on that one! You should see my basement

Hundreds upon hundreds of wires...

The only things that will go wireless are my laptops.

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 11:12 pm

hahaha

i like wireless laptops and when you have a bunch of machine all across the house and you don't wanna run that much wire

i've got tons of wires.. and when i get that stack running.. i'll have WAY more :/

i wanna do wireless for one reason... so i can get this 100ft cable thats on my living room ceiling to my neighbors machine out of my hair

Post by **Derek** » Wed Jan 14, 2004 11:36 pm

Too much wireless is bad for the head! Just ask Tim

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:22 pm

hahaha

what'd tim do?

Post by **Derek** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 11:59 am

I think I remember him complaining about headaches and stuff. Whenever he walked out of the wireless area the headaches would slowly go away.

InactiveX · Post by **InactiveX** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:08 am

That's really not good.

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:26 pm

hrm

how much wireless stuff does he have?

davd_bob · Post by **davd_bob** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:57 am

Try this security test. I am curious(surely others are too) as to how easy it is to do this.
Whoever has a wireless setup and a laptop take it on the road, well actually just into populated areas, and see if you can reach the net via someones home wireless network that is poorly secured.

I read an article in MSN where a reporter seems to us this to send in her/his work when traveling.

InactiveX · Post by **InactiveX** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:56 am

Wireless, drive-by hacking and war-pedalling.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1639661.stm

Be careful out there.

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:44 pm

hahaha

just make it so only ppl that can login to your router match the MAC addresses of the cards you own

problem solved

davd_bob · Post by **davd_bob** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 2:22 am

yippie
kuun is good.

for those of us that don't know how...how can one set that up. i usually get lost going any deeper then setting tcpip address on my peer-peer net at home. Win98 2 units, XP home 1unit, 2000pro on my BP6.

ummm,
also my "security test" post wasn't to get people doing bad stuff...i was leary of putting a wireless access point in the home of someone that relies on me for their computer equipment until i find out how risky it is.

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:35 pm

ok there is an option to allow only specific MAC addresses

it's different depending on the router you use

i helped set one up by remote one day

it was on a linksys

Dave Rave · Post by **Dave Rave** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:57 am

Asus WL-500g handbook
make sure the router box and it's aerial are sited at least 20cm from any person.
I guess they say it for a reason.
and if you have a room full of wireless, headaches sound a fair possibility.

but then, so are bad backs (not me) eye strain (not me) lack of concentration (hmmm, nope)
maybe I'm genetically biased to the IT industry. (thanx mum)

davd_bob · Post by **davd_bob** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:44 am

Hyperspace,
Remember Gilligan's Island?
Is Tim related to Gilligan?

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:27 pm

hahahahahahahah

Billl · Post by **Billl** » Sat Jun 26, 2004 4:22 am

My NetGear MR814 allows you to assign MAC addresses to specific IP's which pretty much eliminates anyone hacking in. Assuming of course you limit the number of address to the number of machines you actually have! DHCP is fine as long as you take these precautions. If you want total security I suggest you dig a really large hole in the back yard fill it about half way with concrete. then drop your PC in and finish filling the hole

Billl

kuun · Post by **kuun** » Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:22 am

yeah your right

there is no complete security.

if someone wants in bad enough they'll find a way..

but im gonna do everything i can to make it living hell for them to get in

Holodeck2 · Post by **Holodeck2** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:34 am

wardriving! if you see me sitting outside your house with an antenna aimed at your access point then you better start running for the powercord like crazy

Linksys 802.11g access point is my personal favorite, h4x0rs for it float around the internet. it's a poor man's Cisco router

davd_bob · Post by **davd_bob** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:01 pm

HAHAHA

holodeck2,
you must be really good in order to hook yourself up to an antenna and sit outside someone's house and be able to violate their access point. most of us would need a pc. hey, are you related to Tim? Maybe its you giving him the headaches.

Holodeck2 · Post by **Holodeck2** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:06 pm

lol, you know what I mean, antenna -> computer -> Me!
and no I'm not related to Tim, that would be scary
and those headaches is from a lack caffine in your system