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johnli · Post by **johnli** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 11:23 am

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kuun · Post by **kuun** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 3:28 pm

i never liked those portable mp3 players

i prefer CD's

higher sound quality to me *shrug*

hyperspace · Post by **hyperspace** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:18 pm

One wonders how accurate MP3 is compared to the real thing. I have not seen any real world comparsions. Oh course, this is a very subjective subject when using one's ears as the test equipment.

InactiveX · Post by **InactiveX** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 12:50 pm

I never encode below 192kb/s LAME. Pop music is usually fine, particularly electronic stuff, classical is a bit more critical. My BP6 has been my "hi-fi" for the last 3 years.

Post by **Derek** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 1:29 pm

InactiveX wrote:I never encode below 192kb/s LAME. Pop music is usually fine, particularly electronic stuff, classical is a bit more critical. My BP6 has been my "hi-fi" for the last 3 years.

Same thing with my music. Never below 192 w/LAME.

johnli · Post by **johnli** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 3:37 pm

The setting to use these days is --alt-preset standard, which is VBR (there's no reason to use VBR and no reason not to use LAME). As for hyperspace's question, an -alt-preset standard MP3 is almost indistinguishable from the CD original in terms of wave structure, let alone to the human ear.
The Hydrogenaudio Forums should be able to point you in the direction of some more accurate comparisoms.
Ofcourse, we should all now be using Ogg vorbis for our encoded music, because it 0wns mp3 in every way

vgoraz · Post by **vgoraz** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:53 pm

well here is come spectral analysis of a few audio formats. its just spectral though but well its interesting.

http://www.phataudio.org/modules.php?na ... =1&thold=0

my current lame options:
%l--alt-preset 128%l%h--alt-preset standard%h %s %d
normally though i have it set to this
-r3mix
go to http://www.r3mix.net or google up for what exactly that does

johnli · Post by **johnli** » Thu May 01, 2003 1:37 pm

r3mix has been depricated in favour of alt-preset standard

vgoraz · Post by **vgoraz** » Thu May 01, 2003 5:02 pm

yeah it seems so,. the website also isnt working either. maybe thats why i have the new presets.
anyways i am quite happy with ogg vorbis. i can actually distinguish the sound quality of ogg being better than my high and very well encoded mp3s, but only on my nice headphones. some of you guys should check out ogg vorbis. exact audio copy, and a few other programs allow it to be integrated into the program as easily as lame is.

http://www.xiph.org/ has ogg vorbis

johnli · Post by **johnli** » Fri May 02, 2003 9:46 am

Personally I've never liked EAC that much, and only use it when I run in to problems. CDeX comes with the latest version of LAME and OggEnc, and does all the naming and cddb lookup (freedb).